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Offline fortunz  
#46 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:48:10 PM(UTC)
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There would be worse things than say, Qualcomm, entering the x86 space with some of AMD's businesses, but if AMD gets chopped up, there's no guarantee that they'll actually compete with Intel and nvidia. They might abandon old markets and focus the tech elsewhere. Not that AMD is super competitive with either of them now.
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#47 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 9:18:14 AM(UTC)
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So you think AMD could create mobile processor solutions?
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#48 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 9:18:15 AM(UTC)
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So you think AMD could create mobile processor solutions?
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#49 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 9:46:50 AM(UTC)
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they are a little late but i dont see why they couldnt be competetive in 3 to 5 years in the mobile processor industry
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#50 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 11:09:02 AM(UTC)
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It would be good for competetition, and would lower prices of phones and stuff.
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#51 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 2:36:42 PM(UTC)
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So you think AMD could create mobile processor solutions?

I suppose it depends on just how versatile Zen is, but really, I doubt AMD itself could do it any time soon without someone else taking control. Of all their expertise, they haven't been playing the fanless low power game, and even Intel had stumbles trying to make it work. Haswell-Y was supposed to make fanless ultrabooks big, but it wasn't really until Core M broadwell that they got things rolling.

Qualcomm, on the other hand, might be able to do more with the same tech more quickly just by virtue of existing in a mobile world.

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#52 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 8:37:13 PM(UTC)
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Would it be feasible for Qualcomm yo buy out AMD? If Zen/Polaris flops or not also needs to be taken into account as well.
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#53 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2016 10:32:39 PM(UTC)
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Would it be feasible for Qualcomm yo buy out AMD? If Zen/Polaris flops or not also needs to be taken into account as well.

I've only discussed any AMD purchase here in the context of 1) Zen/Polaris failing to regain serious marketshare 2) AMD getting sold not as a whole, but for parts to different companies. In that context, there may well be bargains to be had on different pieces of the company.

Qualcomm is pretty dominant, and even the competition from Samsung and Chinese companies in mobile chips just gives them that much more reason to diversify their offerings and do more than ARM. I think it's very feasible at the right price.

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#54 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:11:07 AM(UTC)
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it would probably not be feasible because amd doesnt actually own the rights to the x86 instruction set(thats intels thing) and cant transfer the rights to use the x86 instruction set to other entities. although they do own rights to the amd64 architecture which intel has the right to use in their processors. Really the only benefit to buying amd is that you would get their amd 64 architecture, engineers, and designers. honestly those people can be aquired individually and intel would likely lease the rights to the x86 platform to another company to allow competition and prevent any negative looks. i hope amd does well but i am ready for the downfall if it happens.
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#55 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 7:13:03 PM(UTC)
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Sounds like it would be a fairly simple matter of deal-making for the potential acquirer rather than a deal-breaker, made all that much easier as Intel has to weigh the anti-trust implications of playing hard ball.
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#56 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 8:54:32 AM(UTC)
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Does Qualcomm have access to the x86 set though?
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#57 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 10:06:02 AM(UTC)
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no and unless amd dissolves i doubt that intel would add more competition. i could see intel helping amd survive
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#58 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 1:55:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fortunz Go to Quoted Post
Sounds like it would be a fairly simple matter of deal-making for the potential acquirer rather than a deal-breaker, made all that much easier as Intel has to weigh the anti-trust implications of playing hard ball.

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Does Qualcomm have access to the x86 set though?

That's what the negotiations are about. AMD tech Intel already uses for Intel tech AMD uses.

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#59 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 3:03:08 PM(UTC)
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What?!
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#60 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 7:05:26 PM(UTC)
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If that's a question, it's gonna be tough to answer it without more guidance. Is there something in particular that surprises or perplexes you?
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