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well if this is true then microsoft is just copying what amd did..
this is no suprise cos microsoft doesnt listen to what consumer and developer needs.. they just put what they want on there software and boom the end result was windows 8.. it sucks.. very few actually use it and many people hates it.. DX is no different they did not listen and they dont intend to deliver.. Now.. AMD has MANTLE.. AMD IS CONTINUING TO INNOVATE AND DELIVER NEW TECH which microsoft lacks big time.. we have a bright future with AMD im not saying this cos im a member of the red team but because AMD continues to push new tech which innovates games and now we have TRUEAUDIO too.. the only thing missing now from AMD is very own GAMING OS..
GREAT JOB AMD.. KEEP IT UP!!!
This seems like a reach to me but it seems logical to have similarities since both PC and console platforms are now using the same GPU vendor.
It's seems to me that AMD pulled the trigger on features that were obviously needed and inevitably would be in the next version of Direct-X. Mantle is great for a certain market (those who purchased crappy CPUs). Gamers who don't have that problem (Intel i5 and i7, nVidia owners) don't care for the most part. Hate all you want, it's consistently and still the highest performing combo out there!
Windows 8 is an awesome experience for those with the right hardware and little fear of Change, Bing or Google!
There was a time before the Start Menu, and the time has come for something better that works across multiple hardware vendors choices. But because of peoples general fear of change, Microsoft is stuck supporting Windows XP and having to step back innovation because some people can't live without the precious Start Menu or use search engines for anything besides social media trends and bullshit. Windows 8 on first few boots should have done a better job of explaining the new features and expectations even if it meant bringing back Clippy or MS Bob! Bing it...
Once you commit, stop [censored]ing and actually learn to use Windows 8.1 on the proper hardware, it's AWESOME!!! No Looking Back!
Mantle will be one of those "things" we'll forget and laugh about later when Direct-X and OpenGL make it a distant memory...
@JakeMetica There's always Steam on Linux and Apple... lol
Competition is good (even if Mantle doesn't seem to have much of a chance) If it helps to make Direct X a little better then that's a win for me. I feel sorry for AMD though, they have a lot of major competition to deal with in general.
The idea that an OS designed to run a $250+ tablets is an "awesome experience" if you have high-end PC hardware is a joke, right?
I have run Windows 8 on $5000 desktops with multiple GPUs and 32GB of RAM. Metro still sucked.
Also seems like a reach to me. Seems a bit odd that AMD contacts were contacted to ask about what they think about what Microsoft is doing, but no Microsoft contacts were asked about this.
You obviously haven't played Crysis 3 and BF4 on an i5 before. I have a 3570K overclocked to 4.2 r9 290 gou and both games taps out at demanding scenes. But when using Mantle, my fps are always right up there and my gpu utilization at 100%.
I've been pretty disappointed by the Xbox One so far. But I still have to get it because of being a huge Halo fanboy.
@Joel_H If you have that kind of hardware and haven't figured out how to boot to desktop and use Metro as little as possible or get Start8 and not deal with Metro at all... That says a lot about you...
@NievzThecrazyone You are correct, I saved and went straight to an I7 with SLI , never had those problems! I stand by my statement, "AMD pulled the trigger on features that were obviously needed and inevitably would be in the next version of Direct-X." BF and Crysis will gain similar, if not better benefits with Direct-X 12.
Did I say something that wasn't correct guys?
I've been reviewing computer hardware for 13 years and I'm fully fluent in OS X and Windows both. I've written two reviews of Windows 8. I'm capable enough to use them.
Don't mistake disliking something with being unable to use it. I refuse to upgrade to Windows 8.1 because buying a copy of that operating system sends the message to Microsoft that a broken product with a deeply flawed UI paradigm is worth paying for.
Also: The fact remains, Windows 8 scales down to run on $250 tablets. The idea that you need a Core i7 to run it optimally is absurd.
I am very passionate about the game and I love what you bring, thanks
Stop putting out false info, it runs fine for some on a Core2Duo. Microsoft nor anyone else but you would remotely suggest Windows needs an i7, the games we play and programs run better with it.
Given Microsoft's track record, do you think they would manage separate versions of Windows in a way that would be acceptable to people like you? NO You see what happened with RT.
Bottom line, don't like it, don't use it and stop [censored]ing all the time.
Since you seem to like [censored]ing, 8.1.1 will be here soon you can have a fresh batch of complaints.
I'm not putting out false info. I'm quoting you.
"Windows 8 is an awesome experience for those with the right hardware"
"Once you commit, stop [censored]ing and actually learn to use Windows 8.1 on the proper hardware, it's AWESOME!!! No Looking Back!"
You're the one who consistently implies that there's a magical hardware solution that makes Windows 8 shine. Don't spew stupid, then get mad when someone calls you on it.
No one on this site "spews stupid", we are too intelligent for that!
This is what I'm talking about...
"Windows 8 scales down to run on $250 tablets. The idea that you need a Core i7 to run it optimally is absurd." - FALSE INFO
Regardless of your closed minded opinion of it, it runs better than any previous version and the Start Menu is coming back with the next update to solve the only valid complaint. Stop [censored]ing and being so [censored]sensitive Joey, it's not that serious. 13 years of writing reviews doesn't make you the end all - be all. I've been working with Windows since 84' and it still doesn't make my opinion any better or worse than yours, just different.
I'm not entertaining this anymore, if you have anything else to say, PM me and we'll go from there.