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#1 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2008 8:14:35 AM(UTC)
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It was about a month ago that NVIDIA released drivers that included PhysX support, leading to multiple allegations of cheating.  Why?  Well, quite naturally the CPU physics test (3DMark Vantage) shows much higher results with PhysX in the mix, as the CPU load moves greatly to the PPU.


According to a forum post, Futuremark hasn't been asleep, and has decided any such results will be deemed invalid and removed.


I've changed (sic) a couple of e-mails between Futuremark CEO Tero Sarkkinen who quickly commented current confusing situation in ORB and Hall of Fame.


NVIDIA's GPU PhysX was launched in the middle of summer and most of FM's staff are on holidays (Most people are here in Finland). Tero said timing couldn't have been worse but they have updated filtering system coming up which will handle the runs which are not following Futuremark's guidelines.


When I asked more specific about NVIDIA's GPU PhysX, he confirmed that it won't be allowed. (Since Vantage's CPU test 2 is designed to measure CPU physics calculations and it is clearly stated in the rules that GPU or driver can't affect the result significantly).


So from now on if you want to run offical 3DMark result or Hall of Fame result with NVIDIA gfx you have to use Futuremark approved WHQL driver and do not install NVIDIA PhysX System Software.


Now, this is all unconfirmed, naturally.  We haven't seen an official Futuremark press release or anything and thus have to take this poster at his word, but it seems reasonable to believe him.  Readers, what is your opinion on this cheating "scandal?"

 

 

 
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#2 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2008 4:53:59 PM(UTC)
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I smell change coming. It wouldn't shock anyone to see a new testing method come about. It's probably the next step to vantage 2 that will include said marks but it will be a test specific to ppu calculations to allow the cards to flex there grit. Besides considering the market is at some point going to go ppu said test would be needed to test power from card to card and if the test is suppose to be testing the cpu and instead test the ppu and there is no proper test for the ppu then said testing practices are already dated considering todays hardware. If the test was in effect suppose to be showing the over performance power of the total machine then its time to include a test that address these cards and i think thats why futuremark has taken this angle. What do you folks think
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2008 10:05:36 PM(UTC)
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New Techonology calls for new software. And this case is no exception.

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#4 Posted : Friday, August 8, 2008 12:27:13 PM(UTC)
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 Hi All

^ Agreed ^

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