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Offline Crisis Causer  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:43:22 AM(UTC)
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Perhaps video cards do not yet need more bandwith than 256-bit with GDDR3. 

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:00:27 PM(UTC)
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Crisis Causer wrote:

Perhaps video cards do not yet need more bandwith than 256-bit with GDDR3. 



the 2900 tried 512 bit and it sucked compared to the 8800.... :-/ 512 bit is too costly and shows not enough improvment at this point
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#18 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:07:34 AM(UTC)
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 Thats a shockingly low price for a released high end card.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:25:29 AM(UTC)
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Crisis Causer wrote:

Perhaps video cards do not yet need more bandwith than 256-bit with GDDR3. 

the new gtx cards will use a 512-bit
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:46:00 PM(UTC)
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But will it make a difference?  There's no difference between 256-bit and 512-bit Radeon 3870s, for example.  And the new G92 cards are all 256-bit, yet often beat the 320-bit and 384-bit G80 cores.  But different cores are different apples, but just saying.  Going with GDDR5 and keeping with 256-bit helps increase the bandwith too.

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#21 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 6:26:47 PM(UTC)
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i dont think the 3870's are 512. i think what your thinking of is the 3870x2 which has 2 gpus, so 2 x 256. many sites report the spec as 512

improvements with new buses are hard to say at the beggining. because the tech is new and etc etc... but right now if you compare a pci video card to a pci-e 2.0 you will see a huge difference from the extra lanes.

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#22 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2008 7:55:58 PM(UTC)
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There are special 512-bit versions of the 3870.  I think our good friends at Diamond even make one.  I read a review somewhere and there was virtually no difference.  There's also no difference between the 256-bit and 512-bit 2900 Pros.  512-bit was a big advertising gimmick for the 2900 line, but it didn't do anything in reality. 

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#23 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:57:06 PM(UTC)
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There are special 512-bit versions of the 3870.  I think our good friends at Diamond even make one.  I read a review somewhere and there was virtually no difference.  There's also no difference between the 256-bit and 512-bit 2900 Pros.  512-bit was a big advertising gimmick for the 2900 line, but it didn't do anything in reality. 



but that will be useless automatically since the gpu isnt optimized for 512 bit.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:37:04 AM(UTC)
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Well, we got some more release date information:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-radeon-computex,5587.html 

"Two updated dates for your calendar are: June 17: Nvidia launches

GeForce GTX 200 series. June 23: AMD launches Radeon 4800 series."

I didn't think Nvidia would beat AMD to the punch, but it appears they will.  Bummer.  If the 4800 is slower, which is predicted, it will hurt to come out later (even if by only a week).  But AMD may yet have the price:performance ratio advantage, we'll see.

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