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Offline entermymatrix03  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:57:59 AM(UTC)
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ok, this is gonna be a doozy to explain. i was wondering if they made a pci slot expander. my problem is i put in a 420w PSU in my SFF case and it took the top portion of my pci slot. i really want my audigy 2 back, but the top of it won't fit in there due to the psu. do they make, or can i make, something that will slide into the pci slot on the mobo and i can put the card sideways. there is plenty of room for this, just don't know what to buy to accomplish this. thanks guys.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:09:20 AM(UTC)
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There are external video cards, but isn't onboard sound not much worse than an Audigy?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:14:14 AM(UTC)
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You can get riser cards. These are used in the desktop style cases you get in workplaces. They make the card horizontal rather than vertical.

Like so:

http://www.mycableshop.com/3rd_Level/PCI32_RiserCards.htm
Offline entermymatrix03  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:18:16 AM(UTC)
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man, everything sounds tingy and nothing has bass. i've turned on the eq and put the bass all the way up...still can't fill gunshots in games like i could with the audigy. the damn card riser is $40-$60, didn't expect them to be that much, so i may just buy the audigy nx (or something like that) for $70. its an external soundcard. really didn't want to go that route as its something more to carry, but i want good sound.
Offline Jordan  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:35:03 AM(UTC)
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Remember and look around. I only posted the link as an example of what you should be looking for. The key thing was the product is called a riser card.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:37:20 AM(UTC)
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yeah, i did look around. i went to froogle after your link and the cheapest was $25. i called my uncle because he has a ton of old desktop pentium 1/2 systems that are trash and he said he had a couple. so i'm gonna go by and grab one. free is always the best way! lol. one thing though...if it is too tall, can i trim it down with a dremal tool. i only need one slot, he said the ones he has has room for 3 slots. is that possible if i don't get any of the dust into the slot itself?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:48:56 AM(UTC)
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I wouldn't even try it.

On the dust issue, I'd just use a vacuum cleaner with a hose attatchment and the actual vacuum cleaner at a distance from the PC. Or compressed air.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:52:18 AM(UTC)
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does that mean its not possible or you're just not brave enough and wouldn't give it a go. whats the worst that could happen by trimming it down? i could cover the pci slots with tape so no dust will get in and it may work. when cutting through the pcb, if i cut above the first pci slot to rid of the others, it shouldn't affect the first slot huh?
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:58:09 AM(UTC)
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are you really out of PCI slots? like the bottom ones
Offline Jordan  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:04:19 AM(UTC)
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"if i cut above the first pci slot to rid of the others, it shouldn't affect the first slot huh? "

I wouldn't be so sure and that's why I wouldn't do it. They are curcuit boards remeber, not just 3 slots on a plain silicon board.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:16:27 AM(UTC)
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RFIRE- i only have one pci slot in my SFF and my psu is hovering over it taking its place.

i guess i could get more than one, slice one and see what happens. it won't short my card or my mobo would it? it just wouldn't work because it can't complete the circuit right?
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:51:13 AM(UTC)
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"it just wouldn't work because it can't complete the circuit right? "

I would think so. I'm no engineer/electrician though.
Offline Elsparrow  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:25:01 AM(UTC)
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I am (sort of). Tbh whether it works or not depends the routes the circuit tracks take on the board and also if any chips are on the board. if you have to cut some chips off then I would bet money they are there for a reason and losing them could cause a problem
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:35:12 AM(UTC)
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" I am (sort of)."

Sort of? You have a Physics A level!

I have a Higer in Physics but an electrician I am not.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:45:53 AM(UTC)
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Nah I got an Electronics GCSE which I got an A in. I got double A for my sciences too

I developed a circuit in my Electronics GCSE that was supposed to water plants. However as I am not good with plastics and vacuum forming my water tank kept splitting so the dam thing never worked properly as I wanted it to.

Also I had two sets of probes to detect water. The one for the soil worked fine. The one to detect when your water tank is low on water gave you electric shocks though if u held them in your hand when touching em together....
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