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Waiting for benchmarks
This is messy. I am not sure the 8350 would need a price cut if its significantly better in the CPU side of things. It seems though that amd is getting into the range of gamers who buy discrete GPUs and want a good CPU to go with it, as their prices increase. yet their CPUs are still not that strong.
but who knows. Maybe the market for APUs is much more. I would not buy an APU when I know I want a discrete though. I would jsut ignore amd altogether
I think it's way too early to speculate on pricing. Pricing can and often times does change right before launch.
I think it's way too early to speculate on pricing
It's way too early to speculate at all. We need to see benches on this technology. I'm not too wrapped up in it's graphics performance because I use discrete GPUs in my builds.
Also, I have read somewhere that benchmark software may not "look" at these things properly and will need to be modified? (not sure about this)
Once they're out, we'll know all of the answers that pertain to each one of us. The real advantage to APUs is that they have been affordable in the past. I hope that AMD doesn't overdo it's prices and take this away from themselves.
Existing benchmark tools should be perfectly capable of testing APUs. Nothing new on that from I'm aware of.
I've got a good idea of where I expect Kaveri to fall on both CPU and GPU terms. AMD's forecasting has been very clear -- modest on CPU, more significant on GPU depending on Mantle.
Yeah I want to get excited but I need to see the benchmarks first.
Believe it when i see it.
Theiir FX chips are selling really well here in Australia.
In new titles the AMD system beats most of intels sub $700 cpus and when you overclock the FX it is so much quicker again!
I think its about time people stopped being like sheep and going to Intel because they are apparently "better" / "cooler" etc etc... All the latest i7's overclocked on water run very hot 60-80c... where's my FX8350 @ 4.9ghz only reaches high 40c.
I'm looking forward to MANTLE & HSA from AMD in 2014
AMD doesn't have to be the fastest out there to please me. They just have to continue to offer up good performance for a lessor price. The two APU systems that I've had so far were exactly that.
There wasn't a ton of heat to have to mitigate, and even though they had decent GPU performance built into them, I used discrete graphics with them for even better frame rates. One was installed into an ASRock Mainboard and the other was in an ASUS.
It was easy to overclock them and they were stable once they were set up. They used less power than their counterparts too.
Just improve what you have already AMD, and I'll buy it.
APUs are a no brainer already. (a decision or choice that is very easy to make and requires very little thought) Please keep this in mind.
Unless you're running an open loop water cooler, I don't believe you. Go run Prime95's full torture test mode for 20 minutes, come back, and tell me what your CPU temps look like. Either your motherboard is misreporting, you aren't loading the chip, or you're using a custom water cooler -- probably with a chiller.
I've tested the FX-9590. That core can't run in the high 40s at full load with a 180mm closed-loop double-fan radiator attached in a custom-built rig. At 4.9GHz, you're radiating more than 250W directly off the CPU and I promise you, it gets hot.
The only alternative is that your motherboard BIOS doesn't report properly. That's possible -- the Gigabyte board that's certified for the FX-9590 doesn't.