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2016-03-30T02:32:02Z
http://www.zdnet.com/art...ng-ubuntu-to-windows-10/ 

More details tomorrow, but likely this will be geared for IT pros rather than general users. I'm curious to see what they do with it. Virtual machines have plenty to recommend them, but integrated access means no separate allocations of your hardware, less OS management, less wait from when you decide to do something linuxy to when it's up and running, and no need to even decide how to move info from VM linux to windows or vice versa. It's all in one spot.

I also think this may be an early herald for how Nadella's MS will be different from Ballmer's. Ballmer's MS was worried that even a functional Office on Windows Mobile would threaten desktop Office. It was a company wound up in knots trying to keep threats at bay. Lately MS seems more like a company moving forward rather than one obsessed with protecting past accomplishments.

tmanvest
2016-03-30T02:51:45Z
i am kinda scared. this sounds good but i dont trust that microsoft will give the full attention needed to integrate it completely.
Sim_8_3
2016-03-30T06:09:36Z
I never thought I would see the day that MS would even consider integrating an Linux based system like Ubuntu into Windows, I sure would like to know the reasoning behind their decision?
Blackhawk8100
2016-03-30T15:56:09Z
Reasoning is probably they see Linux as the future, as it isn't all that bad. It is interesting eh?
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2016-03-30T19:47:07Z

I never thought I would see the day that MS would even consider integrating an Linux based system like Ubuntu into Windows, I sure would like to know the reasoning behind their decision?

My understanding is that it's motivated by cloud developers who work with servers based mostly in linux. Rather than having to juggle back and forth between windows and linux, this allows them work entirely in windows with less time spent juggling data back and forth between VMs, multiboots or entirely distinct hardware. It's basically a streamlining option. And a smart one for MS, though I wouldn't agree that it's because they think Linux is the future. More that they want to keep as many people in the windows ecosphere for as long as possible to keep linux from opening ever more fronts against windows.

I'm still in a tinkering phase with Linux myself, so I'm still trying to feel through how this will work for more casual users hoping to run linux software from within windows, but I wouldn't be surprised if developers build on top of this to make a lot of things more streamlined even for normal users. Right now it's easy enough to run Android apps in windows through some sort of emulator, but imagine if you didn't need an emulator?

tmanvest
2016-03-31T01:37:10Z
ofcourse i am going to see what i can do when it is implemented in the builds. i may try to put a linux desktop environment lol
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2016-03-31T02:43:19Z
I gather it's inbound this July, maybe earlier for insiders.
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tmanvest
2016-04-06T21:18:19Z
good thing i am an insider. i am trying to get my pc to update back into the program
Blackhawk8100
2016-04-07T01:51:45Z
Wait...what are the benefits to Linux?
tmanvest
2016-04-07T02:34:15Z
for most people nothing. viruses are less common but for microsoft to add this it is for keeping devs the use linux servers within the windows ui
tmanvest
2016-04-07T03:01:00Z
for those wondering it is the full version minus the desktop which im downloading now lol. this is why i cant have nice things. btw all ubuntu commands should work.
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2016-04-07T22:43:57Z
When I went to the insider site yesterday, the available version was 295 instead of 316. I guess I need to upgrade from within windows to get the fast track upgrade. I don't even know if my last insider vm from like October will even boot up anymore, I assume they cease functioning eventually.
Blackhawk8100
2016-04-08T00:50:26Z
Oh, ok 😛 No performance boosts, got it 😛
tmanvest
2016-04-08T02:13:06Z

Oh, ok 😛 No performance boosts, got it :P

for newer hardware there is no real benefit except for it being free. for older hardware it can give them a second life by allowing them to use modern applications to browse the web safely and efficiently.that being said i used that on my old dual core laptop