My moneys is still on the Tegra. Intel & AMD are too busy fighting to notice that nVidia is making their move to dethrone them!

Do you think you'll see Tegra-based notebooks any time soon?

Let me know when Tegra based laptop can play a real PC game and has a real JVM for me to code with.

It's only 2.7/3.6GHZ quad core with less work done per clock cycle than Sandy Bridge+, and 35W TDP. AMD needs to grow a pair and release some 47W and 57W APUs like Intel has done so it can have more room for performance with laptops.

That too funny. Most of the time the call is for AMD to reduce TDP and thermals, not raise them.

Sure looks like AMD Red Team is delivering the multimedia performance and gaming goods in the laptop arena. Considering a price to performance ratio, the mobile "Kaveri's" look like a "Smackdown" with plenty of game at this time.

How about comparing apples to apples rather than apples to grapes?

Put some data up for the i7 47W chips (which usually take as much power as the AMD 35W ones), like the Iris Pro ones (i7 4950HQ)? Or at least the i7 4650U with GT3 and 3GHz turbo, that should have a 50% advantage over the i7 4500U minimum (and possibly double, though doubtful without increasing TDP tolerance)

Along with a commensurate 50%+ increase in price LOL.

I just bought an AMD A10 based toshiba notebook and I'm quite amazed at the performance I got for the price.

Amazed in a good way. takes a whole 4 seconds to boot and plays most games very well, especially considering it had only the integrated GPU, but I can run most new games ESO, the new Wolfenstein etc with most settings up high. Have to play with the OverDrive software and see what headroom there is for overclocking (probably not much).

"Along with a commensurate 50%+ increase in price"

You would be surprised, even if the chip itself costs 100% more the total price won't increase nearly as much (usually other parts are also improved). Not to mention that simply having a 15W i5 with discrete card will out perform anything else while still drawing less power at idle.

"It all comes down to final price points and real-world system performance."

That is the point. Sell to more people who need something new that works well and can't afford the best. (or don't need the best)

AMD is crazy like the Fox.

still think apu processors are the way to go for budgets

This laptop is great for regular gamers and pc users who dont need ultra graphics the only thing im concerned about is price