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psych1cvenom
2002-07-16T13:51:37Z
Hey everyone! I wanna get a new motherboard/processor and I'm wondering what type of AMD XP processor is the best. I've heard plenty of good things about overclocking the XP 1600s, 1700s and 1800s, but I'm wondering if I should shell out the extra dough and get one of the newer XP 2100+ or XP 2200 processors. Also, If anyone could let me know a cost effective motherboard, fan and heatsink to go with the AMD processor, it would be much appreciated

Thanks guys!
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2002-07-16T18:17:42Z
ONe thing i have noticed HS doesn't really play a massive roll unless you have good vetilation. From what i have seen people like 5x 80mm 1800rpms fans & 1x 120mm side which brings in cool air & a 120mm at the very top of the case brining heat out.
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2002-07-18T02:44:10Z
always try to get whatever is the best that u can afford...
Marki
2002-07-26T17:46:49Z
Good question psych1cvenom. I'm interested in this as well. I want to buy a new cpu(AMD and cost effective) along with a motherboard, since Intel is a bit down at the moment.
Richard12
2002-07-26T19:34:12Z
To me I would get the 1700. I would get it strictly for price. I can oc it easily up to 1900 with no problem
The_Punisher29
2002-07-26T20:58:14Z
If I had to buy a new CPU I would go for a Athlon XP 1900+
Richard12
2002-07-26T21:17:28Z
It all depends on how much your willing to spend. Personally Id buy a kick ass heatsink and get like an 1800
Bothware
2002-07-27T16:37:43Z
XP1700 currently gives best price-performance ratio - and can be overclocked more than faster chips. The XP2200 is nearing the cap of the process limits for clock speeds.
Richard12
2002-07-27T17:51:07Z
See I was right. 1700+ is the way to go.
Beast
2002-07-28T15:15:04Z
my xp 2000 is a bit pants to be honest ,ive got a zalman flower cooler on the bugger,but my system wont boot if i try to take it higher than 1713 (it's 1667 stock speed)..ive got a soltek drv5 mobo aswell.anyone know what im doing wrong ,if anything?
Dante
2002-07-28T15:19:30Z
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Originally posted by Richard12
See I was right. 1700+ is the way to go.


Nah, the 1800 is only like $10 more and can easily be clocked to 2000 or even 2100 speeds. Some have even said to be able to push it to the 2200 speed, but I've never seen this personally. Going beyond the 1800 is silly though, as an 1800 will run you $85-$90 and a 1900 will run you like $115-$120.
Bothware
2002-07-28T15:22:03Z
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Originally posted by claspingbeast
my xp 2000 is a bit pants to be honest ,ive got a zalman flower cooler on the bugger,but my system wont boot if i try to take it higher than 1713 (it's 1667 stock speed)..ive got a soltek drv5 mobo aswell.anyone know what im doing wrong ,if anything?


Im not familiar with your particular MoBo but in the past Ive hated soltek boards!

Is the Chip modified for overclocking?

You've got a good cooler, but you'll need plenty of fans aswell

You can't guarantee any chip to go faster than another though, they'll work at their labelled speed, and most will overclock well but the slightest impurity would have an affect at higher clock speeds - also your prob could be due to incompatible frequencies with bus, mem, pci, agp etc.

DID you INCREASE VOLTAGE?

What FSB? what multiple? what Voltage?
Bothware
2002-07-28T15:23:10Z
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Originally posted by Dante


Nah, the 1800 is only like $10 more and can easily be clocked to 2000 or even 2100 speeds. Some have even said to be able to push it to the 2200 speed, but I've never seen this personally. Going beyond the 1800 is silly though, as an 1800 will run you $85-$90 and a 1900 will run you like $115-$120.



XP1700+ should overclock to almost the same speeds - after all they are the same chip! - AMD selects the best and brands them at top speed, then selects next best etc.

Also the difference in the UK is 11 which is almost 20% more for a chip thats only 6% faster - and will hardly ever be fully utilized
Dante
2002-07-28T15:34:24Z
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Originally posted by Bothware


XP1700+ should overclock to almost the same speeds - after all they are the same chip! - AMD selects the best and brands them at top speed, then selects next best etc.

Also the difference in the UK is 11 which is almost 20% more for a chip thats only 6% faster - and will hardly ever be fully utilized



Yeah, but for an extra $10 why not buy the 1800 and make things easier?

But I guess in the U.K. the difference in price is a litte larger. I'd still mess with the 1800 though.
Bothware
2002-07-28T15:41:11Z
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Originally posted by psych1cvenom
Hey everyone! I wanna get a new motherboard/processor and I'm wondering what type of AMD XP processor is the best. I've heard plenty of good things about overclocking the XP 1600s, 1700s and 1800s, but I'm wondering if I should shell out the extra dough and get one of the newer XP 2100+ or XP 2200 processors. Also, If anyone could let me know a cost effective motherboard, fan and heatsink to go with the AMD processor, it would be much appreciated

Thanks guys!



Just realised - none of us suggested the MoBo to go with it

Id suggest any current ASUS MoBo with the extras you need.
Id get RAID but it may be of no use to you, you probably dont need onboard audio, ThermalTake Volcano7 @ 10 is best value high performance Fan+Heatsink, if you'd prefer something quiter (& also better looking!) then gat a Zalman Flower 6000.

Abit MoBo's are also good, but none of them suit me idealy.

Im waiting for 8x AGP though, which I know is just about available, Im also tempted to get 64bit, but that might be no good for 32bit game performance, due to clock speeds.

Id spend the saving from 1800 to 1700 on a better MoBo it would make more difference there.