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Post-iPad announcement, Steve Jobs late last week held a company town hall. Wired noted that the big topics included both Google and Adobe, which should surprise none.

After all, Google is becoming more of a threat to Apple, with its Android app phone OS, and with plans to release a Chrome OS for PCs as well. Additionally, Adobe's made clear how it feels about the lack of Flash support on the iPad (and by extension, the iPhone).

On Google, Jobs said:
We did not enter the search business, Jobs said. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won’t let them, he says. Someone else asks something on a different topic, but there’s no getting Jobs off this rant. I want to go back to that other question first and say one more thing, he says. “Don’t be evil is a load of crap.” (originally reported as Jobs saying it was "bullsh*t.")
On Adobe, he said:
They are lazy, Jobs says. They have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don’t do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy, he says. Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it’s because of Flash. No one will be using Flash, he says. The world is moving to HTML5.
He may be right about the move to HTML5, but that doesn't mean that it's any less annoying to find a missing area on a web page due to lack of Flash support.

Here are more details from MacRumors:
  • Apple will deliver aggressive updates to iPhone that Android/Google won't be able to keep up with (which also means more work for jailbreakers)
  • iPad is up there with the iPhone and Mac as the most important products Jobs has been a part of
  • Regarding the Lala acquisition, Apple was interested in bringing those people into the iTunes team
  • Next iPhone coming is an A+ update
  • New Macs for 2010 are going to take Apple to the next level
  • Blu-Ray software is a mess, and Apple will wait until sales really start to take off before implementing it (which could mean never if streaming takes over instead)

love the comment of no evil heheheheh


It may be true the world is moving toward HTML5 but Flash has always been great. Apple is too much of a solo artist. Google is gonna control much of the world They just have the drive and Moolah to give them dominance. Technology is taking a very interesting turn.


lol its all competition from here :D


@Bighorse I think Flash is one of those programs that polarizes opinions. For me, Flash hasn't been so great, it's barely adequate. And Steve Jobs calling Adobe lazy and their product buggy? Spot on!

Though I don't quite follow his rant about Google. Is this the Steve Jobs that was fired by the Apple Inc board in 1985?


gibbersome wrote:

Though I don't quite follow his rant about Google. Is this the Steve Jobs that was fired by the Apple Inc board in 1985?

Yup, rants like this are classic Steve Jobs. When you look at his rants and compare them to Balmer's you can see how alike they are, but people think Steve is cool so he gets off the hook most of the time.

Leaders of companies are always going to get pissed when others threaten their market shares and criticize their decisions, big egos will always clash and we will get some great new quotes out of em.


Rofl go off, thats funny. You know where it come from? I do all the comments on the ipad not having this and that capability. One thing thats being missed here is with the iPhone they have stepped into a new market space completely. Amount wise high number items are used by more users.

When you step into the high number per capita market as has been done with the iPhone they expect more from you. Up until now Apple and jobs as well could do no wrong because the only people who were loyal to Apple on the large number market were generally Apple faithful. A lot of those iPhone users were expecting a more cross compatible device from the iPad a do everything device if you will.

They did not get it in several ways. So there mad and just like I said with the college humor remarks I thought that was a good bit of there faithful. When your faithful jump yo there is one of two reactions. The first is anger, the second is determination to quickly make changes to make these things work at least somewhat. The problem is they can't because of OS limitations for one (the flash thing), the next is locked hardware. They can't change this either.

This is the angry response (it's called throwing a fit or tantrum)! You got noone to blame so you blame the largest target.


yeah whats the movie title Pirates in silicon valley or something.

Der Meister

they should put in there we will never support flash because of the amount of free games out there and we want people to buy them from us (apple)...

As for the lack of blue-ray support, I work retail and I love crushing the hopes and dreams of apple users with the lack of blue-ray...

Customer: "I need to get a blue-ray burner for my mac"

Me: "Mac does not support blue-ray because they think the technology is too buggy and wont be around long enough to matter"

Customer: "well how do i burn my hi-def movies?"

Me: "simple get a PC"

Customer: "well that sucks I am going to write apple about this"

Me: "Ok sounds good"