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varunmehta11
2009-05-07T14:59:08Z

I have a HP Pavilion 8505, year 1999 model. It's having a Pentium III 450 Mhz clock and 100 Mhz FSB cpu. It's a Katmai Slot 1 SECC2 processor.

I want to upgrade the cpu to 800 Mhz. But i think katmai CPUs have max 600 Mhz clock rate. Will 800 Mhz Coppermine be compatible with my ASUS P2B-VT Motherboard having Intel 440BX Chipset ? If no, then would upgrading the RAM from 192 mb to 384 mb (max possible) improve the system performance instead of the above mentioned cpu upgrade ?

Basically i'm upgrading this pc for improving the internet surfing(cos' browser is working slow), a lot of downloading and also some applications sometimes takes 30 sec - 1 minute to start up.

Does a change from 450 Mhz to 800 Mhz Cpu clock would improve the above or the RAM upgrade from 192 MB to 384 MB or Both?

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Super Dave
2009-05-08T00:09:03Z

Welcome to HotHardware, varunmehta11! In a situation such as yours Google is your best friend! Start by typing into the search box ASUS P2B-VT and see what kind of info you get. Take a look at what I gleaned HERE. I used to have an old Toshiba laptop w/Pentium II CPU @ 300MHz and 256MB RAM running XP. I used it to surf the web, and it was no speed demon, but it successfully played streaming video with my high-speed DSL connection. I believe it would be best to upgrade the RAM first. That is some real legacy hardware you have there! If you can't buy memory/CPU for it at a dirt-cheap price then you probably shouldn't bother upgrading. Also, at that hardware level, today's Adobe Flash Player (used by many websites, including HotHardware) will likely cause a BSOD or restart and probably shouldn't be installed.

Super Dave
2009-05-08T14:25:01Z

There is a book written by Tom Sheldon and published back in 2003 called Upgrading Your HP Pavilion PC that might be of interest to you, varunmehta11. I just happen to have a copy and did a little digging this morning. There is a mention of a mobo referred to as Harrier, ID: P2B-VT, Chipset: Intel 440 BX, Type: Slot 1, FSB: 100MHz. Three different variants of that mobo are listed (with either onboard graphics or no graphics) and all three of these have a footnote: Supports Coppermine (0.18 micron) FC-PGA 370-pin CPUs. Do not install Tualatin (0.13 micron) FC-PGA2 CPUs in this model, although PowerLeap (www.powerleap.com) may make adapters to allow such upgrades on your model.

varunmehta11
2009-05-09T06:56:53Z

Super Dave wrote:

There is a book written by Tom Sheldon and published back in 2003 called Upgrading Your HP Pavilion PC that might be of interest to you, varunmehta11. I just happen to have a copy and did a little digging this morning. There is a mention of a mobo referred to as Harrier, ID: P2B-VT, Chipset: Intel 440 BX, Type: Slot 1, FSB: 100MHz. Three different variants of that mobo are listed (with either onboard graphics or no graphics) and all three of these have a footnote: Supports Coppermine (0.18 micron) FC-PGA 370-pin CPUs. Do not install Tualatin (0.13 micron) FC-PGA2 CPUs in this model, although PowerLeap (www.powerleap.com) may make adapters to allow such upgrades on your model.

Do i need a special adaptor or slocket for installing a coppermine in place of katmai processor for my ASUS P2B-VT motherboard ? If yes, then which kind of adaptor is required for uprading to coppermine.

 

Super Dave
2009-05-09T11:36:27Z

I believe the adapter would only be needed for the Tualatin.

varunmehta11
2009-05-10T00:28:20Z
There is a small cooler master fan on my current katmai Single Edge contact cartridge 2 (SECC2) processor. Can it be removed and used on any SECC2 Coppermine processor ?
Super Dave
2009-05-10T01:53:11Z

I don't know the answer to your fan question, but I really dig THIS article from 1999! It is amazing to see how far hardware has evolved in just 10 years!

varunmehta11
2009-05-10T06:24:41Z
Super Dave, can u please give the link to download the pdf format of the book : "Upgrading your HP Pavilion PC" by Tom Sheldon, since i can't buy this book.
Super Dave
2009-05-10T11:51:04Z

Take a look HERE, varunmehta11. Where are you located?

varunmehta11
2009-05-10T13:46:21Z
I live in India. Can't i get the free ebook edition of the book.
Super Dave
2009-05-10T22:10:36Z

I'm afraid not!