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Drago
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2008-11-19T19:43:46Z

The source where i got this information seems that this info is correct, though things could change.  Im inclined to believe that this stuff is legit, and im all excited to 😃

So it looks like the first Deneb's aka Phenom II cpus will be the am2+ only chips, then later on the AM3/AM2+ cpus arive. Here is some more info on the naming convention and some more description of the new chips and code names.  If you look back at my other post you can see that the AM2+ denebs are 125w TDP cpus while the AM3 denebs are slated to come out at 95w TDP.  This is looking very good and should allow just about any motherboard produced in the last 2 years that are AM2+ compatible to put in a brand new Deneb especially the 95w TDP ones.

Looks like AMD is really positioning their yeilds and putting the slightly defective ones to good use.  The way i see it, the Deneb 900 is the best of the best if everything goes right, deneb 800 are chips with some L3 cache issues that loose a few mb of cache, hecka are deneb's with a core disabled which is why they loose 0.5mb of cache since that was the L2 and L1 of the core that was disabled, propous is a deneb with L3 cache disabled, rana is a deneb with L3 cache disabled and a core disabled, and regor are deneb's with 2 cores disabled with possibly 1mb of L3 cache.  The only thing i do not like to see about this roadmap is that the dualies come out so late.  I sure hope AMD gets the 7000 series dual cores out there as right now AMD has no competition for the Core2 dual cores save the current X3 chips that just are not near as good unless you get the black edition 8750 and oc the crap outa it.

Hopefully this strategy will let them use up most of their cores and have little waste so that they can make good money and get back in the game to start working on the next Intel Killer.  Looks like 2009 will be a good year for AMD.

 

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kid007
2008-11-19T22:08:22Z

 8mb 3.0 in january uff that is around the corner i will love to see the testing of that beast...

Drago
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2008-11-20T01:17:05Z

man if the price is right, i might end up with a new rig based on the Dragon Platform.  I do like nvidia, but atm they just dont have a card im looking for in my price range that doesnt suck down so much juice and produce so much heat yet they still dont have after market sinks from other card manufactures on them yet.  Im really eyeing the HIS 4850 with their nonstandard cooler that is alot like my nv5 silencer i have now on my 6800GT.  For around $150 its hard to find something that nvidia carries that will be able to match it performance wise and power consumption wise.

As for AMD, i love the way that they have positioned themselves for this transition.  All the current AM2+ mobos with a bios update will be able to support deneb, and all the new AM3 mobos support them save for the only 2 AM2+ only denebs.  Great backwards compatability, and the ability to run such a great chip on ddr2 or ddr3, giving people the option to buy their chips with no penalty.  No matter what AMD will be making money with this move, mainly in moving chips as people will not need to update to AM3 mobo's to use deneb at all.  This gives them a healthy transition form one platform to the other and once the transition is done AMD has a great budget setup and less ticked off customers.  To go Core i7 would mean new chip, new mobo, and new RAM, and all of that is expensive cause it is new.  AMD can offer a much wider variaty of systems and price points and still be able to sell their chips effectively.  I so hope AMD keeps the price war going and under cuts intel real good.  I know intel is doing quite well, but hey no need to gouge customers.

kid007
2008-11-20T16:43:45Z

go with the dragon platford is going to pay off... and value = performance in this case >:)

tanka12345
2008-11-21T18:05:39Z

Everyone should be excited (including me) it's about time for Intel to actually compete for market share, not just expect their processors to always be the best.