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ivj
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2005-05-06T17:29:53Z
Basically, none of my crap is overclocked. Nothing.

I have no idea how fast my CPU is supposed to be, but according to BIOS "safe" settings it's a 2400 Mhz P4.

(multipliers are like 18x 133mhz I believe).

Basically, this only happens on startups - sometimes my motherboard says "system CPU check failed" (I've got that p4pe motherboard with voice feedback to the speakers) - and my monitor wouldn't even go on. A few restarts usually fix it.

Sometimes nothing happens at all. I have to restart, at which point I'm automatically thrown into BIOS where I'm told something about the problem with CPU on the last startup, so it's reset to the safe settings (2400mhz).

So, does anybody know what could be causing those problems?

Also another question - the mhz multiplier in BIOS goes up to 200mhz, so does it mean that I can have this CPU running at almost 4 Ghz (in theory, if I can cool it well enough) ? Really, will any CPU overclocking give me any noticable difference? (I have 500 mhz FSB on my mb, I believe, and I have 1 GB DDR stick, that's all I know )
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Aphot
2005-05-06T19:57:10Z
meh that happend to me, my video card got fried... I have the same mobo im not sure how to solve it.
Samwise
2005-05-06T20:26:31Z
quote:

Originally posted by: ivj
Basically, none of my crap is overclocked. Nothing.


Also another question - the mhz multiplier in BIOS goes up to 200mhz, so does it mean that I can have this CPU running at almost 4 Ghz (in theory, if I can cool it well enough) ? Really, will any CPU overclocking give me any noticable difference? (I have 500 mhz FSB on my mb, I believe, and I have 1 GB DDR stick, that's all I know )


Yes, virtually. But alot of it is luck. Very few people can achieve 4GHz. You need high quality overclocking RAM and motherboard and prbably EXTREME cooling. Air cooling is piss weak.
ivj
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2005-05-06T20:33:22Z
So how much do you think I can cool it? I've got one CPU fan, 1 PSU fan, 1 fan on the side of the case, 1 big fan in the front of the case, and one small fan in the front of the case that goes through my hard drive (one of those SCSI easily removable hard drives... How much could i overclock with that set up? (I live in WA, it's usually fairly cold here).

And aphot - wow we have almost the same configuration. I even have the xfx 6600 gt as well .

Exception is I have 3 scsi hard drives, 36, 36 and 60 GB, all 3 cost over $1000 (together).
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2005-05-06T22:28:28Z
with tech support issues you need to list your full system specs. I'm moving this to the tech support forum and we can start a new thread for overclocking your rig to help you OC after the stability issues are fixed
ivj
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2005-05-06T23:02:56Z
Ok, here's a cut-out from everest report... I hope this isn't too much.

--------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc.
Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A, 2400 MHz (18 x 133)
Motherboard Name Asus P4PE (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Brookdale i845PE
System Memory 1024 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM)

Display:
Video Adapter GeForce 6600 GT (128 MB)
Video Adapter Matrox Graphics Mystique (4 MB)
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT (128 MB)
3D Accelerator Matrox Mystique
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT PCI-E

Audio Adapter Intel 82801DB(M) ICH4(-M) - AC'97 Audio Controller [B-0]

Storage:
Disk Drive FUJITSU MAN3735MP SCSI Disk Device (73 GB, 10000 RPM, Ultra160 SCSI)
Disk Drive IBM DDYS-T36950N SCSI Disk Device (36 GB, 10000 RPM, Ultra160 SCSI)
Disk Drive SEAGATE ST336752LW SCSI Disk Device (36 GB, 15000 RPM, Ultra160 SCSI)
Optical Drive Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
Optical Drive HP CD-Writer cd16f (16x/10x/40x CD-RW)
Optical Drive SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616F (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown

[ BIOS ]

BIOS Properties:
Vendor Award Software, Inc.
Version ASUS P4PE ACPI BIOS Revision 1002
Release Date 10/28/2002
Size 512 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities PCI, AGP, USB





--------[ Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A
CPU Alias Northwood, A80532
CPU Stepping C1
Engineering Sample No
CPUID CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
CPUID Revision 00000F27h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2405.38 MHz (original: 2400 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 18.0x
CPU FSB 133.63 MHz (original: 133 MHz)
Memory Bus 167.04 MHz

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset Intel Brookdale i845PE
Memory Timings 2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1 1 GB PC2700 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-8 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz)


Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 38 C (100 F)
Tcpu 39 C (102 F)
Fcpu 2411 RPM
Vcore 1.57 V
Vaux 1.57 V
Vio 3.39 V



Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.55 V
CPU Aux 1.55 V
+3.3 V 3.28 V
+5 V 5.11 V
+12 V 11.71 V
-12 V -11.63 V
-5 V -4.41 V
Debug Info V 61 61 CD BE B7 B7 B7 26 (01)
Debug Info T 38 39 255

edited out a ton of info we don't need
boa
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2005-05-06T23:53:23Z
what PSU are you using?
usually you want to try and isolate the problem if possible by stripping the system down.
how often does the system hang like it does?
does it ever crash? if so when running what apps?
ivj
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2005-05-07T02:50:10Z
PSU - I stole it from one of my dad's server machines, it's a 300W nothing-special one.

I highly doubt that it's the cause - other than the startup thing - my system is 100% stable

That crap ONLY happens when I turn the computer on (not from a standby mode, but from a turned off mode).
ivj
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2005-05-07T22:59:57Z
So, nobody has any idea what it could be?
boa
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2005-05-08T11:34:09Z
quote:

That crap ONLY happens when I turn the computer on (not from a standby mode, but from a turned off mode).

LOL when you first boot up you get a large strain on the PSU. I think its the PSU IMO.
You got a bunch of hard drives, powerful VGA, & CPU sucking on a 300W...

I'd recommend this PSU.
I'd bet the 12v rail is about twice as strong as the one you have now which powers your CPU, harddrives, VGA, etc.
ivj
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2005-05-08T17:39:25Z
How do you identify whether a PSU is good or not?

I mean I'd first check out some local stores, like PC recycle and stuff... is the only indicator that i'm looking for - the wattage?
Ramman
2005-05-08T18:49:38Z
Go to the PSU section and look at the PSU Guide at the top of the page. Go through that, if you have any more questions we'll be glad to help.