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StukaSt1
2004-04-29T19:18:15Z
I'm contemplating getting a sff pc and don't know much about them. Can anybody tell me any problems with sff pc's?

I want one that:
1.) Is less than $300
2.) had a P4 mobo
3.) No onboard video

if someone could recommend one that fits those requirements that would be great
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Predator
2004-04-29T21:15:39Z
Well the main disadvantage of "SFF pcs" is that they have little room for future upgrades. I.E. pci slots, ram, drives(HDD and optical),etc.
Only $300?? If thats USD you aren't gonna be able to get alot. I think all pc's that cheap have onboard video... that is if you buy if from a manufacturer (hp,emachines,compaq)

BTW why do you want a cheapo comp like that? The specs on your current comp are damn nice.
digitaldd
2004-04-30T09:50:52Z
best place online i've seen for SFF news/reviews/etc is http://www.sfftech.com/ 

they even have forums for SFF related questions..

I haven't seen any Intel based SFF systems without integrated video on them under $300, there are a couple of AMD AthlonXP and Athlon 64 based systems without onboard video in that price range..

you do realize you can disable the onboard video and use a real AGP video card right?
Icecold2831
2004-04-30T17:00:56Z
I have a sff right now,
Ice-Cube from First International Computers, You can purchase the barebone system from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewP...DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1 

I own the IC-VG61.
StukaSt1
2004-05-04T02:27:06Z
Sorry I've taken awhile to post, this comp is going to be used for lanning, I thought onboard video would add to the cost of the PC I didn't mean an entire PC just a barebones PSU+Mobo+Case

So I want a good Mobo and nice looking case

btw thanks for the links