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DarrenB
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2004-03-18T13:34:48Z
What is the Form Factor for motherboards? I am doing a serious upgrade on my PC. I am probably takin out everything except for the case, power supply, hard drive, and dvd drive. I just need to know if everything will be compatible.
My new system will be:
MSI k8t NEO Fis2r mobo
AMD Athlon 64 3400+
eVGA Geforce FX 5900
I currently have a 400 watt power supply and a midsize case by A-Open. My hard drive is a 20 gb WD400EB (western digital). Will my mobo be compatible with my hard drive. Will the mobo fit inside my case when I tear out everything thats in there?
Specs on my case:
Housing Material :
Metal: SECC
Main Board Size :
Micro ATX/ATX
Disk Drive Bays :
3.5" *2/1(external/internal),
5.25" *3/0(external/internal)
Power Supply :
300/250W ATX high efficiency, UL/CSA/FCC only or CE/DoC/C'tick certified
Dimensions :
Width 7.64"(194mm),
Height 16.77"(426mm),
Depth 17.32"(440mm)
Ventilation :
Air vents with 6cm optional 2nd DC fan
Volume :
2.1 Cu. ft.
If this case or hard drive won't work, what would you recommend?
Thanks,
Darren
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RudyR1999
2004-03-18T13:42:05Z
The current standard is ATX. So, yes it will fit. Just make shure that your case isn't just microATX. It also needs to fit ATX. Also your hard drive will have no problem running on that MoBo.
mentaldisorder
2004-03-18T15:39:09Z
dude id get atleast a 420 or 450watt psu just in case...My friends comp almost died on a 400...He has a 64 3200 and a 9800 pro and a bunch of other stuff...But i say just to be safe change the psu...but thats my opinion
xtremeskier97
2004-03-18T15:46:24Z
You would also be happier with a Sapphire 9800 Pro for just a little more than that 5900. The 9800 Pro is MUCH better than that 5900.

Just my thoughts.
DarrenB
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2004-03-18T17:16:48Z
How is the 9800 Pro better? Do you have a specs sheet comparing the 5900 to it? Thanks.
Jordan
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2004-03-18T17:27:43Z
Specs mean ntohing. Unless comparing similar cards from the same manufacturer I suppose, but this doesn't indicate what performance will be like in real terms at all.

I wouldn't say the 9800 Pri is "MUCH" better. But it does get my "card of the moment" recommendation. The 5900 XT is a good buy also if youcan't quite strech to the 9800 Pro.
Ramman
2004-03-19T14:20:16Z
Is that 5900 the non-pro, xt, se, or pro? You will see no difference betwee the 5900 Pro or the 9800 Pro. As for benchmarks, those that favor ATi will have the 9800 on top and vise versa for nVidia. In real world aps you will see no difference.
If it's the non-pro, se, or xt, there will be a difference favoring the 9800. Not a wide margin, but you will see it.

And I would up that 400watt psu to a 450. Top end graphics cards are energy hungry and will tax power supplies.
pcs2000
2004-03-19T14:53:47Z
Quote:

Originally posted by Ramman
Is that 5900 the non-pro, xt, se, or pro? You will see no difference betwee the 5900 Pro or the 9800 Pro. As for benchmarks, those that favor ATi will have the 9800 on top and vise versa for nVidia. In real world aps you will see no difference.
If it's the non-pro, se, or xt, there will be a difference favoring the 9800. Not a wide margin, but you will see it.

And I would up that 400watt psu to a 450. Top end graphics cards are energy hungry and will tax power supplies.



I agree with Ramman except that the difference between the 5900xt and 5900 is so small you will only see it in the benchmarks and mostlikely never in a game.
Jordan
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2004-03-19T15:31:04Z
Yeah, you really need a new PSU! 300W! I would recommend at least 350W for a good PSU manufacturer like Antec.
DarrenB
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2004-03-19T21:06:36Z
I have a 400 watt and I think it is made by (Jaton?) Do I really need the 450? I'm only going to have 1 hard drive, DVD drive, and a floppy disc drive. Will the graphics card be draining most of the power?
Ne0rC
2004-03-19T21:19:18Z
Jaton sounds like a no-name maker, may be a gamble, post the rails on the side of your PSU.
DarrenB
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2004-03-19T21:36:12Z
Woops I was wrong. it is by POWMAX. Model LP-8800D
DC Output: 400 watts MAX.

The main reason I want this upgrade is so I can play UT2K4 and future games to their fullest. Right now I have a XFX Geforce FX 5200 OC'd to 300 core and 440 memory. With the default settings and 800x600 resolution in UT2K4, I hover around 35fps. But if I'm on a big map with a lot going on, it'll drop to 20-25fps. I want to crank those settings up to high and have a good framerate after this upgrade.

This would be the PS:
http://www.powmax.com/8800D.htm 
Jordan
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2004-03-19T23:55:46Z
Hmmm dunno why I read 300W
pcs2000
2004-03-20T06:51:02Z
Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenB
Woops I was wrong. it is by POWMAX. Model LP-8800D
DC Output: 400 watts MAX.

The main reason I want this upgrade is so I can play UT2K4 and future games to their fullest. Right now I have a XFX Geforce FX 5200 OC'd to 300 core and 440 memory. With the default settings and 800x600 resolution in UT2K4, I hover around 35fps. But if I'm on a big map with a lot going on, it'll drop to 20-25fps. I want to crank those settings up to high and have a good framerate after this upgrade.

This would be the PS:
http://www.powmax.com/8800D.htm 



If you even went to a 5700 ultra you would not be disapointed at all. The 5200 is a poor performer and should not be considered a gaming video card. It would give you a 3x to 4x improvement if your CPU can keep up
_doodie_
2004-03-20T07:13:04Z
Sorry posting this...
I dont know why everyone is talking so bad about 5200. I have it from asus and till today I played every game i installed: halo, call of duty, etc at 1024X768 and high details with no problems. Marks aren't everything. And I bought it to save money... of corse u have money buy a 9800 pro
Mine isn't over[censored]ed