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willbstylez
2003-12-18T10:29:28Z
Hi Ijust Brought a new MOBO the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe I have some problems which I cant resolve please help.

1. how do I setup Bios system on my hardrive with out deleting my files cause on my old pc I could'nt back up files in hardrive cause old MOBO got fried Ihave two hardrives one empty a samsung 40 GiGs and my second hardrive a western digital caviar 160 GiGs which is half full how do I setup a partial on my second hardrive.

2. when I star power up on my new MOBO the screen says' No device found and Bios not installed. How do I install Bios nad why it say's no device found and in the setup Bios screen all devices are shown.

3. when the Pc starts it say's on the speaker computer now booting from operation system but then on the screen shows
N T L D R is missing (what does this mean and how do I fix this)
and then press CTRL + ALT + DEL to restart.
I do this and the same thing happends all over again.

this is my first time building a Pc Tower please help thank U


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pcs2000
2003-12-18T12:19:02Z
Quote:

Originally posted by willbstylez
Hi Ijust Brought a new MOBO the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe I have some problems which I cant resolve please help.

1. how do I setup Bios system on my hardrive with out deleting my files cause on my old pc I could'nt back up files in hardrive cause old MOBO got fried Ihave two hardrives one empty a samsung 40 GiGs and my second hardrive a western digital caviar 160 GiGs which is half full how do I setup a partial on my second hardrive.

2. when I star power up on my new MOBO the screen says' No device found and Bios not installed. How do I install Bios nad why it say's no device found and in the setup Bios screen all devices are shown.

3. when the Pc starts it say's on the speaker computer now booting from operation system but then on the screen shows
N T L D R is missing (what does this mean and how do I fix this)
and then press CTRL + ALT + DEL to restart.
I do this and the same thing happends all over again.

this is my first time building a Pc Tower please help thank U



It sounds like you used a had drive driver bios/overlay to use a larger hard drive in a old system. If this is the case there is no easy fix. You could reinstall driver but than you will limit system performance and future upgrades. A possible solution would be to network old system to another system and transfer files you want to save. I have never booted both a bios overlay and a non overlay drive together at same time on a system to tell you if this is a viable way to recover your files. I have never been a fan of bios/overlay drives and never used them on my own systems. It would really be the easiest to reformat and start over, sorry.
willbstylez
2003-12-18T12:57:21Z
so what ur saying is should i just setup bios with the empty hardrive and boot it up first then do the second hardrive a partial and what does (N T L D R is missing) what does this mean???
pcs2000
2003-12-18T17:21:47Z
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Originally posted by willbstylez
so what ur saying is should i just setup bios with the empty hardrive and boot it up first then do the second hardrive a partial and what does (N T L D R is missing) what does this mean???

Yes clean/empty hard drive install. NTLDR missing means there is no usable or readable boot information on the boot device.
MrPeter
2003-12-19T01:52:18Z
holy crap, okay. If you have all bios and boot information on your hD, then its not worth saving. Hook that baby up in a $25 external case to save the files you need, then format or you could try to get it to post the C:/> prompt with the blank HDD. Dont try to boot off of that hard drive, it seems to me like its screwd anyway. If you cant get that to work, then you got a bad board.

PS:I love my p4c! good choice on mobo 😉
pcs2000
2003-12-19T19:36:25Z
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Originally posted by dysphunktion
Forgive me if I am reading all of this wrong but you mean to say that there are still computers that store boot information on the HD? I thought that was a thing of the past...


Systems still "boot" from hard drives and will continie to do so for some time. System BIOS point to boot device and boot sector for haard drive info and to point to boot information (the OS) and where to find it.
acarzt
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2003-12-20T22:04:20Z
i posted this i the motherboard section and i'll post it again here to make sure you see it.

1. OK make the 40 gig as your primary hard drive and then put the 160 gig as a slave or secondary drive. You shouldn't lose anything on that hard drive unless you reformat for some reason(don't reformat it lol).

2. My dad has that same mobo and had the same "problem" it still says that but the computer runs perfectly fine, we could never figure out how to get rid of that. But if you have something that isn't showing up, make sure it is plugged in all the way. You don't have to install the BIOS, it's already there. So just ignore that, leave it alone and do a search for a fix on-line at asus' web site.

3. "N T L D R" i'm not exactly sure what that is,but i'm guessing you tried to start you computer with the hard drive you used for your old comp. You can't do that, it doesn't work that way lol. You have to reinstall windows. And you should use that 40 gig for that. It's usually a good idea to put your OS, and all your drivers and stuff like that on one hard drive(the smaller one) and nothing else. And then on the bigger one you would put your picture, movies, games, etc. This way if something happens to the OS or something goes wrong if you ever have to reformat, you wont have to spend all that time backing up files, you can just go ahead and reinstall all that stuff, it's much quicker.

I hope that helped you out. Good luck !